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forecast. >> good morning. >> a little reminder to pay it forward. >> a little, a lot. california, stormy, you know, this big winter storm, it's also kicked up the waves. and of course in california, that means throw on the wet suit and do some surfing. these very impressive waves, orange county, california, this is the huntington beach area. if you're an expert surfer, this was the day for you, right before the big storm arrives. the big waves get there first. we'll probably be watching that high surf for another couple days, of course, obviously it's a little dangerous for the average folk. today the rain if you're traveling out here through california, it's going to be widespread, inches of rain, the possibility of flooding. san francisco is just getting drenched this morning all the way up through sacramento. and further to the north, it continues all the way up the coastline. it's lighter up around eugene and portland here, just got a few showers, but it's going to be on and off really all day long and for that matter all weekend long. this is going to be a four or five-day event. be
. >>> california's debt has put the golden state at the bottom of the annual 50 state financial health check. and for the first time, it was north dakota that tops the list. that's thanks to an oil and gas boom that wiped out its budget deficit and brought unemployment to the lowest in the nation. >>> coming up, a basketball round up. and remembering the man who transformed baseball. plus new york city's iconic empire state building shows off some new high tech lighting. ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose ♪ i'd be all lost at sea ♪ with no reason to make it through ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the celebration diamond collection. ♪ if it wasn't for you [ male announcer ] diamonds so expertly cut, we guarantee them for life. zales is the diamond store. let love shine. . >>> just a tragedy in new york last night as a commuter bus plow the into a long island home and killed a 6-year-old boy inside. the bus had swerved to avoid a pedestrian when it lost control. at least nine bus passengers were treated for in
election on either side. >> i will turner to the audience starting with dan glickman but california we have had a big shake up there in a new redistricting -- what are you watching in california? >> air seats that are in levels of contention. summer non-republican and democrat on democrat spending huge sums of money. as republican campaign chairman, california is always the toughest state force in a presidential race and eyes in eyes has been going into the presidency year, the turnout could hurt us. once you get and lend inland a little bit, california a little bit different at this point but that is something. it comes late and we want to make sure in we don't get her clock cleaned. i always get nervous about california. >> i advise pointed out to my friends at my home state of texas does not believe in referendum, recall or that good government stuff and i think we don't have term limits. i think that the fact that we have this crazy long california which was the result of the referendum i think is unfortunate and not good for the political process. >> the primary or the redistricting co
aren't we getting together? >> that is a great idea. >> if you change california i could tell you sacramento is broke and. please but against every single tax. [applause] >> this crowd does not need to be reminded. >> the ballot is very long. vote against every single one. it's like giving her a went to a junkie. >> herald-tribune is for sale. how do we by media? >> bella also like to comment on the public-school said. liberals don't favor that but they send their kids to the white private school it does not matter to them but who is by teeing the vouchers to the and mail and al gore was asked in the debate in harlem and he was running for president as he was beholden to the teachers' unions a black reporter said if you are so big on the public schools then why do your kids go to private schools? he got angry and said don't bring my children and to this. way to. [laughter] hold on. not so fast. is great to start another fox news but why is that the only game in town? they have 10 times the ratings of cnn but it has not occurred two msnbc they are getting higher ratings of wonder i
to move to la jolla, california, to spend more time with his car, presumably. but in his short time as leader of the republican party, when he was their presidential nominee, he made leadership decisions about the party. about what the party's like. about what the party looks like to the rest of the country. he made leadership decisions particularly in terms of who he would dignify with his embrace. who among everybody in the republican party, he, mitt romney, leader of the party, would privilege. who he would elevate. he elevated guys like chris cobach. the republican guy who wrote arizona's papers please immigration law. he was mitt romney's immigration adviser. he made and then kept as his national campaign chairman a man named john sununu who called president obama lazy and not very bright and said president obama needs to, quote, learn how to be an american. mitt romney's national campaign chairman. mr. romney also elevated and dignified by his presence, i'm sorry to have to say the name, but this guy, donald trump. mitt romney as the leader of the republican party as their pre
california just reelected herself the other night, a veteran of the intelligence committee said she wished that president obama had not accepted petraeus' resignation, that he didn't need to leave office for an indiscretion of that kind. the president didn't immediately accept it, but ultimately he gave in to the logic that petraeus himself was emphasizing, which is it simply wasn't tenable for him to stay in the job having done what he did. and i think everybody is disappointed because petraeus's talents are recognized by people in both parties and have been for years. but he is -- he is paying a very, very stiff price for the mistake that he made. and the white house is simply going to have to roll with that. >> and there are a lot of folks, john harwood, this afternoon, especially out there on twitter and the blogosphere who are raising questions about all of this happening so close to the time he was set to testify next week, that closed door meeting on the hill regarding benghazi. >> everything we know about this so far is that is simply the speculation. and with the touch of paranoia
is california's proposition 8. this was the ballot proposition passed, overturned two years ago. what it says is that even though a california court said that marriage was legal in that state, it banned gay mrarnlg in california. now if the court grants that case, then it might -- might -- get to the fundamental issue whether states can, in fact, ban same-sex marriage. my predictions, chris. it's a virtual certainty the court will take the doma case. courts have overturned an act of congress. it's much less certain they'll take the prop 8 case and we'll only find out today which cases they're going to take because if they're not going to take any cases we won't hear about that until monday. all we get are the grants. no guarantee today but the justices are meeting in a closed door conference. these cases are on the agenda. so we may find out as early as today, chris. >> nbc's justice correspondent pete williams. for the record i would watch a show called pete's predictions. thank you, pete. >> reporter: you'd be the one. >>> next, we'll head to the hill to talk to members from both sides abou
and buy the media? if you change california, blue, broken, broken, sacramento is broken. vote against every single tax, every single one. [applause] please vote against measures. >> i don't think the crowd needs to be reminded of that. [laughter] ann, the ballot is long. >> right. >> there's ten taxes there. vote against every single one. >> right. >> the last thing sacramento needs it more money. it's like giving heroin to a junky. >> i think you may need to go bankrupt. >> how do you buy media, but -- >> i'd also like to comment on your taking over the public schools and actually producing useful ones. liberals don't favor that, but liberals move heaven and earth to send their kids to private schools. that doesn't matter to them what happens in the public schools, and who is it fighting the vouchers tooth and nail. al gore was asked in a debate in harlem when he was running for president because he had been, you know, of course, the democrats that are beholding to the teachers' unions, and so a black gal reporter got up and said, now, you know, if you're big on the public schools, s
cost as much as $500,000 each. >>> to a breaking story in southern california. the fbi says a terror plot two years in the making has been thwarted. four men are training to join al qaeda and the taliban. their objective to kill, kidnap, name injure americans in afghanistan. we talked of blowing up a military base with a truck bomb. authorities say suspects spent time at shooting basing and spent time studying anwar al maliki. >>> following the deadly consulate attack in benghazi, top intelligence officials tell nbc news they knew it was a terrorist attack from the start. but that it is could also have been spontaneous. and they say it was the intelligence community not the white house that wrote the talking points delivered by ambassador susan rice. 97 house republicans have signed a letter to the president opposing rice's potential nomination as secretary of state. >>> now to a check of your weather we turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins with the weather forecast. something important coming up later this week. >> easy one, too. the northwest has been getting hard. good morning, e
at home and around the world. joining me now, though, is democratic congresswoman karen bass of california, a member of the house foreign affairs committee. she is among the democrats including president obama who have been defending ambassador rice. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. you are among a dozen democratic female members of the house who held a news conference last friday saying the criticism of ambassador rice smacks of sexism and racism. this letter that has come out now with 97 seconds on it of house members does include female elected leaders. it also does include minority elected leaders. why do you feel that it smacks of sexism and/or racism? >> first of all, thomas, let me begin by offering my condolences to the families, because they're going through their first holiday season without their family members and yet their family members are being used as a political football and i am very saddened by that. i have to tell you that, you know, we have many house democrats who are signing a letter, within 4 hours close to 60 democrats who signed a letter in support of
. i live in mississippi but i'm retired federal firefighter from california. and disasters, whether it's hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, wildfires, whatever, most jurisdictions find that they're overwhelmed by the time it happens because disasters overwhelm every jurisdiction. so whether you're in new york or down in the coast of mississippi, the jurisdictions that are in charge of trying to mitigate these problems are so overwhelmed, and most are victims themselves. we need a national -- we need a national fire disaster program that exists within the federal government. the resources are there without going to a lot of expense. all disasters is similar to what would happen in a motel. a hotel, if everybody goes into a hotel, they see on the door what to do when a fire starts, how to get out, the hallways are designed to carry the capacity of the people, and so forth. and then once they're out they need to be accounted for. and he'd have an emergency service that can come in and mitigate the problem. most jurisdictions do not have the resources to do this. when it comes to police a
of the northeast, it's now a recovery mission. and yesterday california military planes were loaded with utility vehicles ready to be shipped into new york. an army of some 50,000 utility workers from across the country, even canada, being deployed to the region to help in the massive project to restore power which will take weeks. three navy warships are anchored off the northeast coast to help with the relief effort. in new jersey, military trucks are being deployed to operate as polling places on election day in the hardest-hit communities still remain without power. now, the good news does trickle out slowly. today amtrak will begin offering limited service between new york city and boston. and new jersey transit will also start moving today with limited service. the new york subway system continues to make advances. the "m" train linking queens to manhattan just started running, but there are still no trains running below 34th street where half of manhattan remains in the dark. so the millions of new yorkers who depend on subways, they're now waiting in those long lines for buses. for those
. >> it renders you speechless. thank you very much. >>> west coast headlines are next with california's riskiest step yet to find global warming. plus for many the president's health care plan, are states ready and when might you feel the effects? i'll speak to joe sestak after this break. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. >>> some headlines making news out on the west coast. in arizona, the dispatch has the front page story obama captures florida, about how the president won the state's electoral votes. t and cap and trade comes to state. and the daily news has a story on how wedding plans are blossoming after the passage of a referendum that made same-sex marriage legal. today is veterans day and the president lai
, california, democratic senator barbara boxer. senator, it is so good for you to join us this evening. thank you. >> i'm delighted. just delighted. >> senator boxer, talk to me a bit about what we saw happen in 2008 on the one hand sort of women showing up in an amazing way as secretary of state clinton has said, putting all of those cracks in the glass ceiling and then rolling back right there in congress by 2010. what do we do to get our voices back? >> well, i believe we're going to have our voices back on election day. i really believe that the women are going to break for barack obama. and, you know, it isn't like these issues are hard to follow. we look at the republican platform and what does it say? it says that no abortion, no abortion, you're a criminal if you get an abortion, even in cases of rape and insiscest. the reason i po cuss on rape is how outrageous it is, melissa. it is a crime. it's such a vicious crime in half the states there no limitation. if there's dna found 10, 20 later, you go after the perpetrator. i think women get it. mitt romney didn't lift a finger to change
years of debilitating gridlock. joining us from oakland is democratic senator from california barbara boxer. senator boxer, pleasure to have you on the show. >> nice to be on your show. >> senator, you know, we've talked about the makeup of the next senate and some early prognosticators are saying, the actual power shift in terms of seats held won't change that much, but you may end up seeing a more liberal democratic caucus in the upper chamber just by virtue of who the folks coming in are and believe. i call -- the race between joe donnelly and richard mourdock, mourdock was supposed to have this butnd up. the seat may go to donnelly. chris murphy replacing joe lieberman and tammy baldwin may replace herb in wisconsin. what does that mean in terms of the caucus and animating policies of the democratic caucus and the upper chamber? >> i think this focus on liberal and conservative misses the entire point. the question is, are we going to come together, meet each other half way and make sure this economic recovery continues? these are the big issues facing us in this election and the
in magnolia park area of california, boost sales to stay open late. support local retailers november 24th for the third annual small business saturday. so anyway, i've been to a lot of places. you know, i've helped alot of people save a lot of money. but today...( sfx: loud noise of metal object hitting the ground) things have been a little strange. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep. meep meep? (sfx: loud thud sound) awhat strange place. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. >>> your twin brother is now a member of congress. what -- it's not a popular body. what advice to do you have for him now that he's headed to washington, d.c.? >> the first thing i told him was that he could have it. >> san antonio mayor and dnc keynote speaker, happy it's his twin brother taking a trip to capitol hill walking into a divided house of representatives. congressman-elect what keen castro joins me now. you didn't take your brother's advice. you're not avoiding washington. >> no. >> and as a new freshman congressman, coming to a place that has
california, mayor, you know, i thought this race -- i'm going to say -- it was like the west greenwich village got the vote for figure. same-sex marriage, marijuana, raise taxes to pay for education. this is the most liberal electorate i have seen out there since lbj's day. your thoughts quickly on what happened tuesday. >> well, i think that what happened tuesday is the republican party literally gave it away. they have within obviously succumbing to whatever was required from the tea party for so long that they have gotten out of step with who the people are, what the people care about, and why the people would be motivated to vote. they didn't do a job of selling the republican party with anything anybody could support. >> okay. what's the suppression thing? we all know usually historically suppression means usually directed at the minority vote. we will make it difficult for you to vote. we will -- what do we call it? i can't remember the old terms. you had to pay to vote. >> pay to vote. >> poll tax. and what they call literacy test, some question in greek. some incredibly complic
christian in california. she at least had the savvy to know not to get herself involved in something like that. these are all questions that will come up. >> i want to ask you about glen hubbard, closest topic, economic adviser to mitt romney, "financial times" suggesting a new approach, being more -- much closer to what the president has been proposing. what are you seeing in your private talks with democrats and republicans? there seems to be a lot of give. >> i'm not part of any gang but i'm talking to multiple players and have been since election day and before and have crafted a bill that i hope can be useful in helping us come to a close here. first of all, i think that, you know, friday's meeting, all of us are going to be watching to see whether it's a photo op or whether this is something where these guys are really going to engage. let's face it, the two most important people in this right now are the president and speaker boehner. i mean they are the most important players as to whether we get a result. secondly, i've said from day one, i've been saying it for two years, the mo
and california and some of the other blue states. that's part of why the national polls might not be that great an indicator. >> these national states haven't seen the advertising, haven't seen the campaigning, haven't seen the targeted messaging. that's where the president's team has built the operation that they think will allow them to go from tied nationally to a little bit of an advantage. >> it depends which poll you look at. most of them show mitt romney has a lead among independents. if you're the romney campaign is that your reason for optimism tonight and tomorrow? >> three reasons to be optimistic. one is in a lot of polls, they're doing betting with independents. in a state like ohio, the candidate who wins independents usually wins. david axelrod such as much on the show last week. an incumbent below 50% at 47%, 48%, you have to think you might lose. and third is, ever reporter who's been out in the last week with the candidates has seen there's a lot of enthusiasm on the republican side. i'm not saying there's not enthusiasm for the president. there is. it's not at the level of 20
in jail for probation. nobody in california sits in jail for probation for a year. they don't have the room. president obama is the only one who has the power to do so. it would one, admit, that okay, they got it wrong. it would also maybe at that point, then the media might pay attention to it. >> greg: bob, could it be now that we are past the election coincidently the administration might do the right thing? >> bob: saying the right thing -- first of all, notion that you said in your monologue that obama was responsible for guy, this guy is responsible for drawing attention to himself. when you talk about art, you call it art? >> greg: it is art. have you seen the stuff the left calls art? >> bob: i couldn't agree with you more. most of the stuff is on the extreme is terrible. but this guy drew attention to himself. parole violation -- >> dana: 300 people have seen the youtube video before hillary clinton said to tyrone woods' father they'd arrest the guy that made the video. when we know they knew at the time the video had nothing to do with it. the right thing is let him go. >
to california's proposition 8. the high court's rule follows election day victories in four states for same-sex marriages. activists are trying to keep up that momentum. they're going ahead, looking at seven more states they believe they can legalize the issue in by 2014. their effort also include ace powerful new tv ad from the human rights campaign. it is narrated by a familiar voice. this is oscar-winning actor morgan freeman. >> america stands at the dawn of a new day. freedom, justice and human dignity have always guided our journey toward a more perfect union. now across our country, we are standing together for the right of gay and lesbian americans to marry the person they love. >> joining me now, the hrc's d.c. president, chad griffin. chad, good morning to you, first of all. >> good morning. >> you told "the new york times" this video isn't meant to be interpreted as some sort of victory lap for lgbt rights, through there has to be a sense of achievement given recent electoral victories. >> there is no question this is historic when it comes to marriage equality. we saw the first
and robert reich, former labor secretary and professor at the university of california berkeley. joy, are you feeling sorry for grover norquist yet? >> immensely. he's such a lonelily l man. the senate is gone. enough republican senators have signal they're going to play ball. this is about the house of representatives and really for john boehner, everything changes in a good way for him. if we go off the curb or the cliff on january 1st, he won't be dealing with that tea party caucus and that's the bee in his bonnet that doesn't want to make a deal and by the way, a lot of them are are out the door. so greg's reporting is interesting because it signals that the white house has a public posture in which they say no, we dare not go off the cliff but we're going to get those tax rates increased and the reporting i've done tonight is that there's going to be additional meetings. this was the private version of the public meetings they did last week. now, they've been doing them in private and these are white house economic staff. people who do the policy piece. briefing folks on what they plan t
among men. joining me now for a look at the final stretch of this close race, california senator barbara boxer. senator, thanks so much for joining us. the gender gap has been a big issue, the women's vote has been a big issue among voters throughout this campaign. let's talk about the gender gap. the president has sort of narrow lead among women. it's no longer the double-digit lead that he had. but is this enough for him to carry him, despite the disadvantage that he has with male, men voters, especially white men? >> first of all there are more women voters than men voters. so when he's leading women by eight and romney is leading men by seven, i think the math works in our favor. but here's the other interesting statistic -- among the undecides, the few that are left, most of them are women. and i think as women look at this, whether they're number one issue is jobs, and they look at the latest jobs reports, do you know that you probably do, that barack obama, under his leadership, we've created more private-sector jobs in the last couple of months than george w. bush in eight years?
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in southern california. >> what did haley barbour say about jim jeffords in vermont? >> again, during this presidential process when i was asking olympia snowe or asking a candidate about olympia snowe, are you glad she's in your party? he wouldn't answer. >> right. >> and then we asked haley who said, "hell, yeah. i'm glad olympia snowe is in our party and i wish jim jeffords was, too." even on his most liberal day, jim jeffords was going to get elected more than anybody in vermont. >> do you think -- what's the time frame here? is it that the republican party has perhaps a year and a half to sort of figure out what direction they're going to head in? a year and a half before the leaders of the republican party go to the front window of the club that they belong to, open up the drapes and look out on main street and see the reality of life in america today? >> this happens all the time. i mean, i remember getting elected in 1994. you know, "u.s. news & world report" had a cover talking about the end of the democratic party. you remember 1980. >> yeah, yeah. >> people were saying the
go back to california. others are expected to transition out. hillary clinton most notably. and then we talk about who will succeed hillary clinton. susan rice is a very strong defender. he we heard senator john kerry would be very interested in that position, if he won that sweepstakes. susan page, thank you so much for joining us and chris alissa as well as and mark halpern and andrew ross sorkin. a busy news day and we talk about the fiscal cliff and that summit next week as well. that does it for this week, a busy, very historic week in politics for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." "news nation" with tamron hall is next. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. >>> i'm tamron hall. the "news nation" is following two big breaks news stories right now. first, the president making his first official comments after being re-elected saying
california to washington, d.c. for years. and the republican party has made its position very clear and forced the borders and flat out killed the dream act. republicans spelled out their anti-immigration position on their platform. tough talk on immigration appeals to the base. listen to the way romney talked about immigrants during his campaign. >> almost half the jobs created in texas were created for illegal aliens. in-state tuition for illegal aliens. sanctuary cities. giving tuition breaks to the kids of illegal aliens. four years of college, $100,000 discount if you're an illegal alien. i'm running for office. i can't have illegals. >> imagine what those words sounded like to latinos. now republicans are scrambling to change their tone. all of a sudden, they are saying, we have to evolve on immigration. senators john mccain and lindsey graham want to work on reform. john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create
as higher costs of living and medical expenses sent poverty members upward. california, the district of columbia, arizona, florida and georgia top the list of places with the highest levels of poverty. >> from our parade of papers, "the cedar rapids gazette," fema may need to request a congressional bailout as flood claims from sandy quadruple capacity. it's a fema subsidiary and claims from sandy could top $12 billion. the program's essentially the country's only residential flood insurer. >>> joining the conversation now, former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, steve rattner, good morning. >> good morning. >> we'll get to your charts. also mike allen from the "politico" newsroom, the chief white house correspondent there. good morning. >> i hate being objectified like you guys. >> see, you're in the deutsche camp. let's talk about what mitt romney said in that conference call this week. he was talking to his biggest donors, defending his campaign by saying president obama won because he focused on giving, quote, gifts to latinos, african-americans and younger v
. thank you for joining us today. joining me now is california congresswoman barbara lee, a member of the house foreign affairs committee. congresswoman, a lot of attacks against susan rice who seems to be the messenger delivering a message. do you think that she should be held to account for the what the intelligence community decided to make public? >> first of all, ambassador rice would be der re elect in her duty had she not brought forward the information which the intelligence community provided. this has evolved and, of course, we have a tragic, traj igs situation where four of our diplomats were tragically killed and we have to get to the bottom of it. i think what's also so offensive and wrong is that we are attacking this ambassador for doing her job. and we need to make sure that we stop the politicizing of this and get the facts. that needs to be done. this has to stop right away. i think that once the facts are put forward, then we will know how to proceed to make sure that a tragedy such as this does not happen again. also, let me just say with regard to ambassador ri
new york, california, blue states. the states that get the gifts are the states that voted for mitt romney. >> professor, i guess i should also be consoling you specifically since you must have voted for mitt romney because you work at an elite academic institution and i believe you earn more than $30,000 a year. so you can't have voted for mr. free stuff. you must have voted for mitt romney. >> of course. i'm from michigan as well. i went to the same high school and his father was governor. so there's more damning evidence of my political pedigree. i think that what jonathan alter said is extremely important here. the very people who are talking about others being on the dole, no disrespect to the former republican leader, those who claim that people are not doing -- carrying their fair share, the very people who make these claims are the ones who receive the bounty. those are the people who disproportionately benefit from the laregess of the government. this kind of demonization of the other, younger people, african-americans, latinos and so on who got the gifts, no we didn't. who
grapples with the meaning of his loss he's going to be happy building that southern california mansion and spending time with the kids and also trying to figure out if he does have a place in public life or simply a retired grandfather with a lot of grandchildren he loves. >> and as the party begins to move on, we hear about jeb bush from his son, the fact that jeb bush may be running and jeb bush actually chastising marco rubio for some of the comments that he made in iowa. >> don't you feel like 2016 started on november 5th? i mean you've got marco rubio in iowa, campaigning with the governor. i mean celebrating the governor's birthday. what do we think that meant? gorjts p. bush, maybe running for 2020 or 2024, running for land commissioner texas. you know, you really get the sense that there is a big field for the gop in four years and it's some of the people who for whatever reason didn't run this time but might be formidable characters, nominees next time like chris christie, for instance. >> or some of the other governors as well. thank you very much, susan page, mark, thank you
to you. sarah, this petition was started by an employee, she is in corona, california. she really likes her job but being open on thanksgiving is really pushing it too far. thanksgiving is meant to be with family. do you have those sentiments? is that why you signed the petition? >> alex, i do echo the sentiments, although i do not have to work, many of my colleagues and coworkers across the country do have to work. and not just at target, but also as walmart, the h.h. greg, best buy and other stores. >> it is really tough. and it's the kind of thing, we see these, we call it the creep at the consumers creeping and encroaching more into the holidays, but in terms of target, the press release they put out on their website, here's what it said. we heard from our guests that they look forward to kicking off their holiday shopping with the deal-hunting on thanksgiving night. so how do you respond to that? if you've got consumers who say, we would rather be at the store at 9:00 p.m. instead of with our family on thanksgiving night, what do you say? >> i do understand from a consumer's perspe
bargainings. jane wells is joining me from outside a best buy in southern california. jane with an early good morning to you there, what kind of crowds are you seeing at best buy? >> reporter: right now, alex, you can see, it's pretty light. the line right now maybe only about 20 people. i'm going to come over here. what's your name. >> liz. >> what did you buy? >> i bought a laptop and wep cam. >> where were you earlier today? is this your first stop? >> i'm coming from work. i work at the pavilion mall. >> how long did it take you to get through the whole store? >> through this store? >> yes. >> about an hour. >> very good. thanks. enjoy yourself. it was a very different story earlier. when you talk about people walking out of walmart, employees, customers were walking out of best buy early this morning when they got here at midnight. they found that the wait in line itself after you got everything you wanted was taking in some cases over two hours. and we also spoke to the very first guy in line, alex. his name is jason mclellan. he was here since sunday night at 10:00 p.m. 98 hours until
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